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		<title>By: Edmonton Media Organizations on Twitter at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-85885</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmonton Media Organizations on Twitter at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at which of the organizations are on Twitter and how they use it. Back in November I wrote about local news organizations and their use of social media. At that time, only the Edmonton Journal and iNews880 were on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at which of the organizations are on Twitter and how they use it. Back in November I wrote about local news organizations and their use of social media. At that time, only the Edmonton Journal and iNews880 were on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edmonton in 2008 at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-58443</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmonton in 2008 at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Social Media and Local News in Edmonton [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Social Media and Local News in Edmonton [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Kirman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-54012</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Kirman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5842889689</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and on Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5842889689" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5842889689</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paula Kirman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-54002</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Kirman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another for your:

Boyle McCauley News (www.mccauley.info/bmn)
Blog: http://boylemccauleynews.blogspot.com
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/bmcnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another for your:</p>
<p>Boyle McCauley News (www.mccauley.info/bmn)<br />
Blog: <a href="http://boylemccauleynews.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://boylemccauleynews.blogspot.com</a><br />
YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/bmcnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/bmcnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: Old &#38; New Media: Why can&#8217;t we work together? at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-53983</link>
		<dc:creator>Old &#38; New Media: Why can&#8217;t we work together? at MasterMaq&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what many people have been saying became real for me today. Local media organizations should be doing what they do best, and linking to the rest. This wasn’t a “breaking news” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what many people have been saying became real for me today. Local media organizations should be doing what they do best, and linking to the rest. This wasn’t a “breaking news” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42608</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teresa - thanks for the comment and information.

Bruce - thanks for the comment. You&#039;re absolutely right, local mass media can&#039;t be everywhere. But they can be places the rest of us can&#039;t. That&#039;s where the &quot;do what you do best and link to the rest&quot; idea comes in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa &#8211; thanks for the comment and information.</p>
<p>Bruce &#8211; thanks for the comment. You&#8217;re absolutely right, local mass media can&#8217;t be everywhere. But they can be places the rest of us can&#8217;t. That&#8217;s where the &#8220;do what you do best and link to the rest&#8221; idea comes in!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Winter</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42415</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: 

Great post! 

I wonder, is the news social media? 

For mass media producers,news is a means to aggregate an audience, sell time.

Social media is a means to communicate and share.

Anyone with an enabled device can publish to the internet. Evidenced by the Meteor story. Citizen journalists were first up with that one.  &#039;They&#039; shared it! 

First is an archaic metric media companies have difficulty abandoning. Today the value of the scoop is diminished. The value is analysis Even with extensive human and technical production resources,local mass media can&#039;t be everywhere.  Citizens with camera phones are. 

Mass media organizations need to move beyond reportage. Before &#039;they&#039; engage social media platforms, &#039;they&#039; need to understand how news is consumed, in chunks and on demand. 

The absence of RSS, Content Sharing and Citizen Journalism components to their web platforms suggests they don&#039;t. 

For the most part their content remains locked down. In Edmonton, it&#039;s still &#039;their news&#039;, instead of our news, or &#039;my&#039; news, like you have created with the sources, feeds, you peruse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: </p>
<p>Great post! </p>
<p>I wonder, is the news social media? </p>
<p>For mass media producers,news is a means to aggregate an audience, sell time.</p>
<p>Social media is a means to communicate and share.</p>
<p>Anyone with an enabled device can publish to the internet. Evidenced by the Meteor story. Citizen journalists were first up with that one.  &#8216;They&#8217; shared it! </p>
<p>First is an archaic metric media companies have difficulty abandoning. Today the value of the scoop is diminished. The value is analysis Even with extensive human and technical production resources,local mass media can&#8217;t be everywhere.  Citizens with camera phones are. </p>
<p>Mass media organizations need to move beyond reportage. Before &#8216;they&#8217; engage social media platforms, &#8216;they&#8217; need to understand how news is consumed, in chunks and on demand. </p>
<p>The absence of RSS, Content Sharing and Citizen Journalism components to their web platforms suggests they don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>For the most part their content remains locked down. In Edmonton, it&#8217;s still &#8216;their news&#8217;, instead of our news, or &#8216;my&#8217; news, like you have created with the sources, feeds, you peruse.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42375</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great entry - I would like to add a few things: 

Global Edmonton does have a news feed for their 
Global Video Stories (http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/edmonton/video/index.html)
While I love Global Edmonton for separating their stories individually and having a link - they really should add an embedding featuring as well.

Metro Edmonton
Sometimes (not too often, but getting better) some of their stories will include corresponding CityTV coverage - nice example of both print and TV media working together

Edmonton Sun - Videos
Not sure how often people view their news videos - but I find them to be pretty good considering they have embedding links.

I&#039;m still trying to learn more about social media and all its networks. I like the idea of being able to cross promote and share news and ideas on different websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great entry &#8211; I would like to add a few things: </p>
<p>Global Edmonton does have a news feed for their<br />
Global Video Stories (<a href="http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/edmonton/video/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/edmonton/video/index.html</a>)<br />
While I love Global Edmonton for separating their stories individually and having a link &#8211; they really should add an embedding featuring as well.</p>
<p>Metro Edmonton<br />
Sometimes (not too often, but getting better) some of their stories will include corresponding CityTV coverage &#8211; nice example of both print and TV media working together</p>
<p>Edmonton Sun &#8211; Videos<br />
Not sure how often people view their news videos &#8211; but I find them to be pretty good considering they have embedding links.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still trying to learn more about social media and all its networks. I like the idea of being able to cross promote and share news and ideas on different websites.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ben, just checked out the site. You&#039;re right, it does seem like a thinly veiled attempt at promoting the city. Not much in the way of community-building there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ben, just checked out the site. You&#8217;re right, it does seem like a thinly veiled attempt at promoting the city. Not much in the way of community-building there!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Babcock</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42277</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Babcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our local news website lacks any community section and has limited feedback capability at best. :( A while back my city, Thunder Bay, launched myTBay.ca, which is &quot;an online portal where you can share your story about Thunder Bay.&quot;

The copy sounds good, but in reality the site is unimpressive.  The design is poor (and broken in Firefox if you have JavaScript turned off).  Although the site delivers on its promise of allowing inhabitants to share their stories, photos, and videos, it does this in a very disconnected manner.

It&#039;s a shame that the city wasted an opportunity for what could be an excellent social networking experience.  If &quot;myTBay.ca&quot; were truly interactive, a forum for discussion of Thunder Bay rather than a poorly-implemented attempt at promoting the city, it would be an excellent place for locals to discuss the city and build a better sense of community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our local news website lacks any community section and has limited feedback capability at best. <img src='http://blog.mastermaq.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  A while back my city, Thunder Bay, launched myTBay.ca, which is &#8220;an online portal where you can share your story about Thunder Bay.&#8221;</p>
<p>The copy sounds good, but in reality the site is unimpressive.  The design is poor (and broken in Firefox if you have JavaScript turned off).  Although the site delivers on its promise of allowing inhabitants to share their stories, photos, and videos, it does this in a very disconnected manner.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the city wasted an opportunity for what could be an excellent social networking experience.  If &#8220;myTBay.ca&#8221; were truly interactive, a forum for discussion of Thunder Bay rather than a poorly-implemented attempt at promoting the city, it would be an excellent place for locals to discuss the city and build a better sense of community.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you&#039;re saying Brittney, but I don&#039;t think a lack of knowledge regarding social media or central decision making are good enough excuses. These organizations have the resources to find great people and do innovative things, if they were so inclined.

Here&#039;s the thing - if they don&#039;t do it, someone else will. A smaller, more nimble, and more efficient organization will come along and do all the right things. I think there&#039;s a lot of opportunity.

Five years is an eternity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying Brittney, but I don&#8217;t think a lack of knowledge regarding social media or central decision making are good enough excuses. These organizations have the resources to find great people and do innovative things, if they were so inclined.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8211; if they don&#8217;t do it, someone else will. A smaller, more nimble, and more efficient organization will come along and do all the right things. I think there&#8217;s a lot of opportunity.</p>
<p>Five years is an eternity!</p>
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		<title>By: Brittney</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2008/11/25/social-media-and-local-news-in-edmonton/comment-page-1/#comment-42259</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mack, while I agree that news media in this city need to do more with social media, I can understand why they aren&#039;t able to.  You have to understand the layouts, ideas, and etc... all come from the organizations corporate office. So these are people who generally know NOTHING about social media making the decisions behind this.  I give media outlets almost five years before they figure this sort of thing out. 

Also, in regards to the arena... I understand CityTV had it at noon... but a full story was up around 4pm on iNews880.com.  It had the video, what happened at city council, and soon after, pictures of Gene Dub presenting as well as a picture of the plan.  I believe everyone else picked up the story this morning... but the two news radio stations had it that afternoon.  Just saying.

I think individuals will always have to drag corporations into the future... because the people with the power to make the decisions in a company are usually too busy doing other things to pay attention at first. (Not that they&#039;re slacking in any way... but sometimes it needs to be noticed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mack, while I agree that news media in this city need to do more with social media, I can understand why they aren&#8217;t able to.  You have to understand the layouts, ideas, and etc&#8230; all come from the organizations corporate office. So these are people who generally know NOTHING about social media making the decisions behind this.  I give media outlets almost five years before they figure this sort of thing out. </p>
<p>Also, in regards to the arena&#8230; I understand CityTV had it at noon&#8230; but a full story was up around 4pm on iNews880.com.  It had the video, what happened at city council, and soon after, pictures of Gene Dub presenting as well as a picture of the plan.  I believe everyone else picked up the story this morning&#8230; but the two news radio stations had it that afternoon.  Just saying.</p>
<p>I think individuals will always have to drag corporations into the future&#8230; because the people with the power to make the decisions in a company are usually too busy doing other things to pay attention at first. (Not that they&#8217;re slacking in any way&#8230; but sometimes it needs to be noticed.)</p>
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