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	<title>Comments on: Edmonton City Centre Airport Decision: Phased Closure</title>
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		<title>By: Montreal Limo</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-202989</link>
		<dc:creator>Montreal Limo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoping for the success of the project. </description>
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		<title>By: Limo Montreal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limo Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riding a Airport limousines is already a trend and also on its nearby places. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riding a Airport limousines is already a trend and also on its nearby places. </p>
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		<title>By: Larry Switzer</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-190127</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Switzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that council
 could destroy in 4.5 hrs. something that has been 
here from the beginning.
Must be a lot of money involved.
I wonder who profits??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that council<br />
 could destroy in 4.5 hrs. something that has been<br />
here from the beginning.<br />
Must be a lot of money involved.<br />
I wonder who profits??</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Switzer</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-190126</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Switzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This airport was the gateway to the north,
well the gateway is gone and the assholes responsible will probably get rich.
Remember Mandell at the next election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This airport was the gateway to the north,<br />
well the gateway is gone and the assholes responsible will probably get rich.<br />
Remember Mandell at the next election</p>
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		<title>By: Cdoyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-187745</link>
		<dc:creator>Cdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure we live in a DEMOCRATIC society so that no matter what councillors think it should ULTIMATELY be up to the people.  How ignorant of our government to not give us the option of referendum.  And no, I DO NOT support the closure of the airport but obviously, we the people, don&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure we live in a DEMOCRATIC society so that no matter what councillors think it should ULTIMATELY be up to the people.  How ignorant of our government to not give us the option of referendum.  And no, I DO NOT support the closure of the airport but obviously, we the people, don&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln Ho</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-187168</link>
		<dc:creator>Lincoln Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 06:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Edmontonians who support the airport:
1. In the last 10 years, how many times have YOU personally purchased a ticket to fly from the Edmonton City Centre Airport. 
2. Emergency services to the North will not be affected as it&#039;s not a difference in return travel. Helicopters still land at the hospital landing zones. The guy who argues that the 20km difference will be beyond range is ridiculous. What about those who are in a 20km range south that can&#039;t get access? 
3. The reason why Edmonton has barely any skyline is that our downtown is limited in height due to the airport.
4. Stop using Vancouver and Toronto as examples. Edmonton is not at the same level in population, nor is it an interchange hub of air travel to handle transfers for international traffic. 
5. Travel time from the core to the airport is conditional depending on city design and demographics. The design of Edmonton is dependent of car traffic, and since almost everyone has a car (or two), there has not been a need to build a high-speed system to the core of the city. When you look at NYC, where 40% of residents use public transit (56% don&#039;t own cars), there is a huge need for public transit such as subway or cabs to service most places. Toronto is another huge transit city, hence a good transport to the airport. Calgary decided to build their development towards the airport, and we are starting to see that in South Edmonton now as it goes beyond the Heritage Valley. 
6. Many petitions and forms have a lot of illegitimate signatures and information. There are duplicates, unconfirmed residences, people who are not registered as residents, people not at voting age, people without complete addresses, incomplete names, no contact numbers for reference, and so on. Even on something like a tax donation form for a charity, you&#039;d be surprised at how many people don&#039;t fill out the form completely and expect a tax receipt. 
7. Stop knocking on peoples doors and threatening people to sign your petition. I know a few friends (I&#039;m sure they&#039;re not the only ones) who had door knockers that wouldn&#039;t leave unless they signed the petition. 
8. Notice that media outlets who have a news chopper or use news chopper footage were the ones who jumped onto the bandwagon first, and have made a bigger stink about this than how it actually is? Who has sponsored the Global morning news? Envision. It&#039;s no surprise that Edmontonians are being uninformed and force-fed the illusion of the &#039;usefulness&#039; of ECCA. 
9. Instead of groaning about a decision that has already been made, let&#039;s focus on building Edmonton and how we can make it better, rather than staying bitter for another 12 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Edmontonians who support the airport:<br />
1. In the last 10 years, how many times have YOU personally purchased a ticket to fly from the Edmonton City Centre Airport.<br />
2. Emergency services to the North will not be affected as it&#8217;s not a difference in return travel. Helicopters still land at the hospital landing zones. The guy who argues that the 20km difference will be beyond range is ridiculous. What about those who are in a 20km range south that can&#8217;t get access?<br />
3. The reason why Edmonton has barely any skyline is that our downtown is limited in height due to the airport.<br />
4. Stop using Vancouver and Toronto as examples. Edmonton is not at the same level in population, nor is it an interchange hub of air travel to handle transfers for international traffic.<br />
5. Travel time from the core to the airport is conditional depending on city design and demographics. The design of Edmonton is dependent of car traffic, and since almost everyone has a car (or two), there has not been a need to build a high-speed system to the core of the city. When you look at NYC, where 40% of residents use public transit (56% don&#8217;t own cars), there is a huge need for public transit such as subway or cabs to service most places. Toronto is another huge transit city, hence a good transport to the airport. Calgary decided to build their development towards the airport, and we are starting to see that in South Edmonton now as it goes beyond the Heritage Valley.<br />
6. Many petitions and forms have a lot of illegitimate signatures and information. There are duplicates, unconfirmed residences, people who are not registered as residents, people not at voting age, people without complete addresses, incomplete names, no contact numbers for reference, and so on. Even on something like a tax donation form for a charity, you&#8217;d be surprised at how many people don&#8217;t fill out the form completely and expect a tax receipt.<br />
7. Stop knocking on peoples doors and threatening people to sign your petition. I know a few friends (I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re not the only ones) who had door knockers that wouldn&#8217;t leave unless they signed the petition.<br />
8. Notice that media outlets who have a news chopper or use news chopper footage were the ones who jumped onto the bandwagon first, and have made a bigger stink about this than how it actually is? Who has sponsored the Global morning news? Envision. It&#8217;s no surprise that Edmontonians are being uninformed and force-fed the illusion of the &#8216;usefulness&#8217; of ECCA.<br />
9. Instead of groaning about a decision that has already been made, let&#8217;s focus on building Edmonton and how we can make it better, rather than staying bitter for another 12 years.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-186062</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we as citizens of Edmonton do not know what is good for us, according to our city council, we do not need a City airport. Who are we to even suggest that we do? Major cities arround the world have municipal airports, or large ones within there city limits. Council has visions of making Edmonton a backwards blip on the map, a laugh among world civic communities. I say Vote the dictators out. We know what is good for us, if we did not then maybe they would rather we had No electoral say at all!! Come on Council cancell the election! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we as citizens of Edmonton do not know what is good for us, according to our city council, we do not need a City airport. Who are we to even suggest that we do? Major cities arround the world have municipal airports, or large ones within there city limits. Council has visions of making Edmonton a backwards blip on the map, a laugh among world civic communities. I say Vote the dictators out. We know what is good for us, if we did not then maybe they would rather we had No electoral say at all!! Come on Council cancell the election! <img src='http://blog.mastermaq.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/08/edmonton-city-centre-airport-decision-phased-closure/comment-page-1/#comment-185901</link>
		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phair! Excellent name to bring to the debate! Now I&#039;m even more certain I&#039;ll vote to keep the airport alive. Nice work Mack, but just a &#039;little biased&#039; ?  And I see you are getting a lot of letters that don&#039;t support the closure. 
Well, besides all that crap, has anyone thought of how much we (taxpayers) will have to pay to clean up all the oil and gas left behind after WW2 before even thinking of developing?  Environmentalists all! will be in our pants. And besides this cost to us, isn&#039;t it obvious? Mandel is a land developer!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phair! Excellent name to bring to the debate! Now I&#8217;m even more certain I&#8217;ll vote to keep the airport alive. Nice work Mack, but just a &#8216;little biased&#8217; ?  And I see you are getting a lot of letters that don&#8217;t support the closure.<br />
Well, besides all that crap, has anyone thought of how much we (taxpayers) will have to pay to clean up all the oil and gas left behind after WW2 before even thinking of developing?  Environmentalists all! will be in our pants. And besides this cost to us, isn&#8217;t it obvious? Mandel is a land developer!!</p>
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		<title>By: FU mandel</title>
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		<dc:creator>FU mandel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see micheal phair&#039;s name came up as supporting shutting down the muni....i must remind you that this said person was caught in a park with a gentleman of the night , no charges were laid but it was reported in the edmonton journal .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see micheal phair&#8217;s name came up as supporting shutting down the muni&#8230;.i must remind you that this said person was caught in a park with a gentleman of the night , no charges were laid but it was reported in the edmonton journal .</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>city council says they need this land to develop a sustainable community and prevent urban sprawl - if they want to stop urban sprawl, then why don&#039;t they stop isssuing development permits to the developers of the sprawling subdivisions. Avison Young says we have a 26 year inventory of undeveloped land in the city core than will not get developed if the redevelopment of airport land goes ahead, and that closure of the airport will cause urban decay in the downtown core. There is NO ECONOMIC BENEFIT in closing the airport, develop the vacant land we have and stop closing schools in the heart of the city, forcing families to move to the burbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>city council says they need this land to develop a sustainable community and prevent urban sprawl &#8211; if they want to stop urban sprawl, then why don&#8217;t they stop isssuing development permits to the developers of the sprawling subdivisions. Avison Young says we have a 26 year inventory of undeveloped land in the city core than will not get developed if the redevelopment of airport land goes ahead, and that closure of the airport will cause urban decay in the downtown core. There is NO ECONOMIC BENEFIT in closing the airport, develop the vacant land we have and stop closing schools in the heart of the city, forcing families to move to the burbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a friggen joke Edmonton has become.  Does the real estate industry run city council?

Mandel has to disclose his campain contributers since Stelmack closed the loophole alowing big corporations to donate campain money annonomously in municipal elections.
 So..... this is his last chance for the big payoff.  I hope he loses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a friggen joke Edmonton has become.  Does the real estate industry run city council?</p>
<p>Mandel has to disclose his campain contributers since Stelmack closed the loophole alowing big corporations to donate campain money annonomously in municipal elections.<br />
 So&#8230;.. this is his last chance for the big payoff.  I hope he loses!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto area  have large population which is 5 million people but for Edmonton, it is about 1,170,000 EIA can handle all the flight if  ECCA was to closed down.  ECCA does not lose jobs at all because  jobs at  EIA is created with expansion there, meaning  it is about even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto area  have large population which is 5 million people but for Edmonton, it is about 1,170,000 EIA can handle all the flight if  ECCA was to closed down.  ECCA does not lose jobs at all because  jobs at  EIA is created with expansion there, meaning  it is about even.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 06:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto also has a City Centre Airport, CYTZ, it is located less than 10 minutes from downtown Toronto on Toronto Island.  Image what the value of that real estate is.  Funny though, you don&#039;t hear a constant debate about wanting to shut that one down.  At 120,000 to 160,000 flight per year, it is an obvious asset to the city of Toronto, especially the downtown traveller.  Edmonton has a jewel in the heart of the city, why in the hell would city council want to get rid of it.  Once it&#039;s gone, there will no no putting it back.  Imagine how many other cities would kill to have something as grand as this 10 minutes from their downtown.

A little history for you, the airport was there first, in 1926 it was a patch of farmland, the runway was made by cutting down willow bushes and packing down the soil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto also has a City Centre Airport, CYTZ, it is located less than 10 minutes from downtown Toronto on Toronto Island.  Image what the value of that real estate is.  Funny though, you don&#8217;t hear a constant debate about wanting to shut that one down.  At 120,000 to 160,000 flight per year, it is an obvious asset to the city of Toronto, especially the downtown traveller.  Edmonton has a jewel in the heart of the city, why in the hell would city council want to get rid of it.  Once it&#8217;s gone, there will no no putting it back.  Imagine how many other cities would kill to have something as grand as this 10 minutes from their downtown.</p>
<p>A little history for you, the airport was there first, in 1926 it was a patch of farmland, the runway was made by cutting down willow bushes and packing down the soil.</p>
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		<title>By: Photo Tour of the Edmonton City Centre Airport at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photo Tour of the Edmonton City Centre Airport at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the phased closure of ECCA set to begin next week, Edmonton Airports has been working with tenants (such as the Government of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is not very smart to close the City airport, because it is could be used a lot for going up north.
Also if it is closed everything will go to Calgary. We don&#039;t need that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is not very smart to close the City airport, because it is could be used a lot for going up north.<br />
Also if it is closed everything will go to Calgary. We don&#8217;t need that.</p>
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