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	<title>Comments on: Edmonton Police Service (EPS) Crime Mapping tool now online</title>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-168328</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show the whole City on one map.
It seems Government and  Police are always trying to get away from showing the &quot;WHOLE PICURE&quot; or &quot;STACKING THE DECK&quot;...&quot;IT ALWAYS GIVES THE IMMPRESSION THAT THE POLICE ARE HIDING THE WHOLE TRUTH&quot;.

&quot;DOING THESE THINGS CAUSES MISTRUST OF POLICE...IT&#039;S LIKE CHEATING&quot;.

AND LORD KNOWS WE HAVE ALL SEEN ENOUGH OF THIS IN GOVERNMENT, POLICE AND THE BUSINESS WORLD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show the whole City on one map.<br />
It seems Government and  Police are always trying to get away from showing the &#8220;WHOLE PICURE&#8221; or &#8220;STACKING THE DECK&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;IT ALWAYS GIVES THE IMMPRESSION THAT THE POLICE ARE HIDING THE WHOLE TRUTH&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;DOING THESE THINGS CAUSES MISTRUST OF POLICE&#8230;IT&#8217;S LIKE CHEATING&#8221;.</p>
<p>AND LORD KNOWS WE HAVE ALL SEEN ENOUGH OF THIS IN GOVERNMENT, POLICE AND THE BUSINESS WORLD.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-168327</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to show the whole City...or &quot;ALL&quot; on the map, it&#039;s to difficult trying to figure out the names of areas unless you know every area which I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to show the whole City&#8230;or &#8220;ALL&#8221; on the map, it&#8217;s to difficult trying to figure out the names of areas unless you know every area which I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 10 Edmonton Posts for 2009 at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-146362</link>
		<dc:creator>Top 10 Edmonton Posts for 2009 at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Edmonton Police Service (EPS) Crime Mapping tool now online [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Edmonton Police Service (EPS) Crime Mapping tool now online [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Casper</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-122535</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would like Crime Alerts, EPS has that. For example: http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/CommunityPolicing/InYourCommunity/DowntownDivision/DistrictD1.aspx

You just have to pick the division/district you live in and get on that mailing list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would like Crime Alerts, EPS has that. For example: <a href="http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/CommunityPolicing/InYourCommunity/DowntownDivision/DistrictD1.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/CommunityPolicing/InYourCommunity/DowntownDivision/DistrictD1.aspx</a></p>
<p>You just have to pick the division/district you live in and get on that mailing list.</p>
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		<title>By: joanne</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121803</link>
		<dc:creator>joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how does this work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how does this work</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant: the answer is maybe. I don&#039;t really have any monetization plans at the moment, but I guess you could say I&#039;m reserving the right to explore my options in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant: the answer is maybe. I don&#8217;t really have any monetization plans at the moment, but I guess you could say I&#8217;m reserving the right to explore my options in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121747</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to see a more comprehensive City of Edmonton neighborhood map, try this from the city: http://maps.edmonton.ca/

Interactive, informative and very cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see a more comprehensive City of Edmonton neighborhood map, try this from the city: <a href="http://maps.edmonton.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://maps.edmonton.ca/</a></p>
<p>Interactive, informative and very cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121744</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what that means; is it a commercial enterprise then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what that means; is it a commercial enterprise then?</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121740</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been making really good progress, so should have something soon. Thing is, I&#039;m not building an open source tool or anything like that. So there will be lots of opportunities to help out, but likly not with the code!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been making really good progress, so should have something soon. Thing is, I&#8217;m not building an open source tool or anything like that. So there will be lots of opportunities to help out, but likly not with the code!</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121739</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  You should tell us more, Mack... That&#039;s the kind of thing a lot of us would get on board and help out with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  You should tell us more, Mack&#8230; That&#8217;s the kind of thing a lot of us would get on board and help out with</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, Grant: what you&#039;re looking for is http://www.shareedmonton.ca. I&#039;ll have a new version ready for testing soon, with the features you&#039;re talking about :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, Grant: what you&#8217;re looking for is <a href="http://www.shareedmonton.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.shareedmonton.ca</a>. I&#8217;ll have a new version ready for testing soon, with the features you&#8217;re talking about <img src='http://blog.mastermaq.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121737</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob Davy, check out maps.edmonton.ca and it&#039;ll show you the neighborhood name as you mouse over the area.  Just sucks that it&#039;s so clunky.  I&#039;ll put together something better...
Actually Mack, I&#039;m starting to feel like I should snowball up my ETS project to be just one feature of a general map mashup thing.  Seems like we get more data all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob Davy, check out maps.edmonton.ca and it&#8217;ll show you the neighborhood name as you mouse over the area.  Just sucks that it&#8217;s so clunky.  I&#8217;ll put together something better&#8230;<br />
Actually Mack, I&#8217;m starting to feel like I should snowball up my ETS project to be just one feature of a general map mashup thing.  Seems like we get more data all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Davy</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121736</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stick it to the man Mack!

/ends comment explosion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick it to the man Mack!</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121735</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, definitely a performance thing.  I was admiring their asynchronous pin loader with progress bar actually, so they&#039;ve obviously put some thought into making sure it&#039;s snappy.  I guess that brings us back to the desire to do pin clustering for performance reasons.  I can&#039;t recall why exactly I didn&#039;t see a performance benefit when I did this in GMaps the way I saw it when I did it in Bing...  I think it might have been particular to the situation I had; as I recall it was fine at higher zoom levels but unusable at zoom, and the difference was that Bing doesn&#039;t seem to incur much of a performance hit if you add a pin to the map unless it&#039;s actually visible in the map&#039;s bounding box, but with GMaps it seemed to make almost no difference to the performance penalty whether or not the pin was visible. (I just can&#039;t remember why I had to load all the pins onto the map at zoom instead of hooking into the map scroll event and loading them dynamically... whatever.  I really should have taken notes.  Maybe I did, somewhere.  I&#039;ll look that up one day when I&#039;m back at my other office; I&#039;ve been offsite for months.)  
Anyway, we could try it, if you really want to make 350 or whatever separate web service calls to load the pins, but I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;d be a clear violation of their disclaimer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, definitely a performance thing.  I was admiring their asynchronous pin loader with progress bar actually, so they&#8217;ve obviously put some thought into making sure it&#8217;s snappy.  I guess that brings us back to the desire to do pin clustering for performance reasons.  I can&#8217;t recall why exactly I didn&#8217;t see a performance benefit when I did this in GMaps the way I saw it when I did it in Bing&#8230;  I think it might have been particular to the situation I had; as I recall it was fine at higher zoom levels but unusable at zoom, and the difference was that Bing doesn&#8217;t seem to incur much of a performance hit if you add a pin to the map unless it&#8217;s actually visible in the map&#8217;s bounding box, but with GMaps it seemed to make almost no difference to the performance penalty whether or not the pin was visible. (I just can&#8217;t remember why I had to load all the pins onto the map at zoom instead of hooking into the map scroll event and loading them dynamically&#8230; whatever.  I really should have taken notes.  Maybe I did, somewhere.  I&#8217;ll look that up one day when I&#8217;m back at my other office; I&#8217;ve been offsite for months.)<br />
Anyway, we could try it, if you really want to make 350 or whatever separate web service calls to load the pins, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;d be a clear violation of their disclaimer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Davy</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2009/07/16/edmonton-police-service-eps-crime-mapping-tool-now-online/comment-page-1/#comment-121734</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or what neighbourhood the ENTS space is in.... :S
(www.ents.ca ftw!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or what neighbourhood the ENTS space is in&#8230;. :S<br />
(www.ents.ca ftw!)</p>
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