Comments on: Who’s behind Envision Edmonton?

By: Pelong

Pelong — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:58:00 +0000

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Thanks to the self-serving bureaucrats and business people as well as others trying to rationalize and talk ’til the cows come home about alternative emergency services the bottom line here is that those of us living in Northern Alberta and beyond and unfortunate to find ourselves in a medical emergency will be facing the reduced opporunity to survive that emergency medical situation if it involves a “Medivac”. Plain and simple.
Be interesting to see how this will impact Edmonton based businesses. There are a number of NW Alberta residents who have already determined that they may as well by-pass edmonton and carry on to Calgary where there appears to be more interest in providing services North of Highway 16. Me included. I have personally travelled out of -Province 3 times since end of May. In 2 instances I flew direct to Calgary, then on connecting flights. On the other occasion I drove to Calgary for the flight out of Province. Despite the inconvenience, no plans to include Edmonton hotels, Edmonton International, etc in any of my future itineraries.

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By: Dave K

Dave K — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:16:46 +0000

Mark,

My job puts me in a position to see things others can’t be made aware of….Trust me….Mandel is in this for the money…..

Remember, Mandel wasn’t even going to run for a 3rd term until opposition to his pals and his plans arose. He ran to defend his ‘gains’

Dave

By: mark f

mark f — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:38:54 +0000

Dave
It’s true that the process was seriously flawed. Obviously the petition signatures should have been checked by an independent body not hired by the city. I think municipal affairs should have been looking after it. It is quite disturbing that so much effort was brushed aside.
I’m not convinced Mandel has personal gain in mind. I just don’t think he is aware of the value of airport access to northern Alberta.
There has been a lot of misinformation. The Airport Authority has been pumping it out for years, plus consulting reports paid for by our taxes have been prepared which have clearly false and misleading information.
In spite of all that the people should have been able to see through it but they still voted the same group in by a good margin. Somehow they think closing an airport is forward thinking.
I find it personally disturbing every time I can’t land a medevac here due to the closure of runway 34. We were able to land here in virtually any weather just a few months ago.
I’ve worked many jobs into this airport from various towns and also worked out of this airport in multiple ways for 30 years. I know for certain that statements like:
“it’s only for a few rich guys” or
“medevacs won’t be affected”
are false.
I’m sure Calgary with it’s new runway being built will surge way ahead of Edmonton economically. In fact I think Calgary will still not be able to meet demand with the new runway. Edmontonians don’t appear to be aware of the value of air connections north and the huge revenues they can bring in.
Nevertheless we gave it our best shot at convincing voters and lost. I just don’t see how we can fix this.

By: Dave K

Dave K — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:47:28 +0000

Mark F,

I feel for you. But, this is a bigger blow to the city than most realize. The economic impact is huge…in terms of lost jobs and business to Edmonton.

Your are in error about it being democratic. Mandell rigged the vote in council with bullying and dirty tricks. The petition signatures were verified by Envision Edmonton before submitting. Funny how Mandell’s clerk finds nearly 20% invalid. Still, he bullied council to bury it..no democracy here. Then…how about the former CSIS spy that was in the Darwood camp. Funny how he had connections to get stuff into the papers etc. with perfect timing. Wonder who paid for this professional spy to do what he did?

So, Mark, there is no democracy in this issue….just a greedy Mandell and his beanie boy pals from the synagogue!!!!!! Robbing us again like they did with Capital Power…remember that one?

Dave

By: mark f

mark f — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:42:38 +0000

I moved to Edmonton to work at the city center airport. My family helped in the campaign to try to keep the airport open. We got signatures on the Envision petition and helped airport friendly candidates in the civil elections. We put considerable time effort and money into trying to save this airport. In the end we lost in a democratic election. I guess we have to figure out an exit plan now to a airplane friendly place.I’m pretty much one skill guy. At least there nothing left to argue about. We lost and it was democratic.

By: Rubber

Rubber — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:11:18 +0000

FU MANDEL, I’ll take this opportunity to gloat at your expense. The election is over; we won, you lost, asshole. Go back to your sorry life and don’t even bother with a rebuttal since I’m never revisiting this site. The likes of you deprived idiots who can’t communicate with civility are not worth a moment of my time.
We won, you, FU lost (very appropriate first name)!
You lost, loser!
Anybody else out there, this type of languare and gloating is not meant for you. I acknowledge and respect your hopes but it looks like the electorate was not supportive enough of your position. Your fight is not necessarily over. Good luck and adios.

By: paw

paw — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:05:15 +0000

if the city center land is opened up for development it may slow down the development of the outskirts. those land speculators with interests out there would be prime supporters of envision and any attempt to keep their investment time line on track. it doesn’t have to be about direct interest in the airport, just the land.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 05:48:28 +0000

Whoa there Fu.

Take a 2-minute break. Check out http://citycenterairport.ca. It’ll do you good.

By: FU MANDEL

FU MANDEL — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:13:47 +0000

what kind of a name is rubber?…….sounds a little like speed and crack mixed together. you go to NAIT fucker? you need a boot up your ass to slap that little brown brain of yours! are you friends with andre darminin? go back to toronto you little prick! we do not need your kind in alberta and take mandel back to the hood with you!

By: FU MANDEL

FU MANDEL — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:06:03 +0000

rubber sound like one of these little pricks running around downtown robbing people all high on crack and speed , probably goes to NAIT and takes the bus everyday to school! little fucker!

By: FU MANDEL

FU MANDEL — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:00:44 +0000

………..picture this little rubber streached over his ADHD head and then you know you are just talking to nothing but a dick that likes to push buttons……what do you expect from somebody living with bedbugs and loving it !

By: Dave K

Dave K — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:25:52 +0000

Here is some insight into the REAL issue at stack. The issue is the vision of the future of Edmonton.

Envision Edmonton and supporters:

Edmonton should use a valuable transportation asset to regain our position as “Gateway to the North” (Remember, before City of Champions). Use of Blatchford field as a transportation hub to Northern communities and the explosive growth in the arctic. Let the 30 to 50 seat region jets fly north and Northeast and bring more current business and FUTURE BUSINESS to Edmonton. One or two flights a day would allow business people quick, daily, access to the business’ in Edmonton. Estimates are billions would come to Edmonton and tens of millions into City Coffers.

Stevie Mandell’s view of Edmonton:

Steal a valuable asset. Give the contract for redevelopment to his old pals at Qualico, Stantec and the likes. Then, take the small price paid for the land….Give it to Katz to build an arena. An arena he keeps the revenue from. Stevie then retires and goes to sit on the boards of the people he gave millions to…..He’s rich…Katz is richer and Edmonton becomes a suburb of Calgary.

The chance to be the hub to the new arctic developement is lost. I know from the people I know….they would stay on the plane a few minutes longer….land at the nice airport in Calgary….zip into the business district and be home for dinner….

Edmonton….well…the Leduc airport dies a slow death…we build a high speed train to Calgary and fly out of there….

So Rubber….what is it? A future for business in Edmonton or a Suburb of Calgary?

Dave K

By: Dave K

Dave K — Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:30:58 +0000

Look Rubber nuts,

I see your at the level of a Rig Pig….Beer, Smokes and Gas in the Pickup. IF you had any knowledge of the issues, it would be worth debating you butthead. I have involved with this issue for many years…..I have seen the economic impact studies, heard the presentations, and heard the advocates of the Airport closer belittle the citizens for their stupidity….I have been there…Where were you, ASSHOLE? So Asshole, tells us where you get your info from? I have from those in the know…..

I have an advanced degree…..beyond your and your rig pig friend’s grade 6, Gethro Bodeen, diploma. My mistakes are from anger at dipsticks like yourself pushing my buttons and typing too quick.